Why a chapter about "slum tourism" was edited out of The Vagabond's Way (with Chloe Cooper Jones)

Episode 250 April 01, 2025 00:56:25
Why a chapter about "slum tourism" was edited out of The Vagabond's Way (with Chloe Cooper Jones)
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Why a chapter about "slum tourism" was edited out of The Vagabond's Way (with Chloe Cooper Jones)

Apr 01 2025 | 00:56:25

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Rolf Potts

Show Notes

“Travel does not require leaving your city or state or country, but it does require leaving your comfort zone. And that can happen a block or two away from where you live.” –Chloe Cooper Jones

In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Chloe talk about why a section about “slum tourism” was cut out of Rolf’s newest book The Vagabond’s Way (2:30); how so much of what we talk about when we talk about travel has industrialized middle-class presumptions (7:30); the motivations and ethical considerations that underpin seeking out disadvantaged neighborhoods as a traveler (15:00); how preconceived narratives and “cultural extraction” often motivates people’s experience in a city, in ways that do not always benefit the city (25:00); what “dark tourism” and “voluntourism” are, and what the ethical ramifications are for travelers (32:00); and the difference between articulating ideals, and the work of acting on those ideals (45:00).

Chloe Cooper Jones (@CCooperJones) is the author of Easy Beauty: A Memoir. She has been a Pulitzer Prize finalist in Feature Writing, and was the recipient of a Whiting Creative Nonfiction Grant, as well as a Howard Foundation Grant from Brown University.

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